Overview
- Lesson Title: Dr. Kabir Mato on Call-In. This is a radio talk show hosted by Dr. Kabir Mato where Nigerians express their concern about the economic and political situation of the country.
- Language: Hausa
- Topic: Economics/Politics
- ILR Level: 2+/3
- ACTFL Proficiency: Superior, Advanced-High
- This ACTFL rating is an approximation based on the ILR level
- Modality: Listening
- Learning Objective: Maintenance & Improvement
- Subject Area: Language
- Material Type: LO
- Publication Year: 2007
- ObjectID: HAUS_11720
Transcript
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Dr. Kabir Mato on Call-In A: Mai magana {((-))} a jihan Bauchi, Yahaya Idriss Sulaiman. Ainihi a nan shi ne, kamar yadda ake ce za a gabatar da wannan shiri ne akan maganar tattalin arzikin ƙasa da siyasa. Maganar tattalin arzikin ƙasa ba zan ce kome a kai ba saboda babu wani abun da mutun zai iya tofa albarkacin bakinsa ba a kai don ƙasan, babu wani abun da take iya wa kanta. Ina so in yi magana ne akan magana siyasa ce a Nijeriya. B: To … A: Magana siyasa a Nijeriya dai tukuna na ɗaya babu makaratu, babu jam’i’u, babu majalisu a Nijeriya gaba ɗaya, mmm … inla kawai a je ƙarshen sati ko a tsakiyan sati a ... B: To, Malam, za ka yi tambaya ne ko kuwa sharhi za ka yi? A: Ai, to … to sharhi ne nake yi gaskiya … B: To, Malam, ba mutum na biyu. C: Salamu alaikum. B: Wa alaikum salam … Baba. C: Ni ne Muhammadu, shugaban masu goyon bayan Babangida a nan Bauchi. Tambayana shi ne: wannan manmu na Bauchi … da aka fara tonewa, har yau ba mu san inda … abun ya tsaya ba. Sannan na biyu, a jakuta, har yanzu ba mu san inda ta tsaya ba. Na uku, tambayar da zan yi shi ne, ɗan majalisa {((----))} sai an gani kuma Obasanjo shi ma ya yi aiki, gwamna Mu’azu shi ma ya yi aiki, Allah ya saka musu da alheri. Kuma tambaya na huɗu shi ne mene ne ya sa talakawan Nijeriya suke yawan zagin shugabannin sannan malamai ba su tashi su yi masu magana? Wannan shi ne tambaya da na yi ma {((--))}. B: To, dokta … D: To, daidai ne Hajiya, tambayanshi shi ne, yana tambaya ne akan … man fetur da aka ce an fara haƙawa a Bauchi, to ina ganin wannan abun ne bincike ya kamata … tun da yana Bauchi, ga gwamnatinsu a Bauchi zai iya samu {answer [English]} wadda ta fi inganci … ah … a gurinsu domin ni ban tsammanin an fara haƙa mai a Bauchi ba, ban taɓa jin cewa an fara ba, na san da an ce gwamnati ta … ah … sa a fara dubawa. Ko man da ake shi a gurin zai isa, har a sa kuɗi domin … ah … a yi ƙoƙarin fitar da shi. Ah … to, kuma babban magana da yake cewa, maganar ajakuta bai san yadda ajakuta yake ba. {Of course [English]}, kamar yadda kowa ya sani, ajakuta na ɗaya daga cikin kamfononin da gwamnatin tarayya ta … ta kariya ta sayar a ƙasan nan. Ah … saboda haka, ajakuta tana nan, har yanzu dai kamar yadda ya sanin, tana hannun gwamnati ne ko kuwa, tana hannun ƴan kasuwa ne ana nan dai, an tsaya an rasa inda aka sa gaba. To, maganan cewa wai shugaba Obasanjo ya yi aiki, shugaba Amadu Mu’azu ya yi aiki. Wannan abu ne na {you know [English]} wadda shi ke bai ya … ya faɗa, kuma sai ya zo wai yaya ya sake. Ta riƙa kiranshi inda ya ce me ya sa talakawa ke zagin shugabanninsu? Kuma malamai ba sa musu magana? Ni, a fahimtana, abin da ya sa talaka ya zagi shugabanshi shi ne idan talaka ya tabbata da cewa shugabanshi ba ya mishi adalci. Haƙi irin na mulki shi ne shugaba ya zan mutum ne mai adalci. Muddin shugaba ya kasance ba ya da adalci, ga wanda yake mulki. To, abin da zai biyo baya shi ne zai sa shi ... wadda ake mulka, ya kasance cewa zuciyanshi ya bushi. Ya sanƙare ya san cewa babu kauna tsakanin shi da shugaban. Dalili kuwa shi ne babu tausayi tsakanin shugaba da shi wanda ya ke mulki. To, shi kuma abun da mutumin wanda ake mulka shi ne … zai kasance cewa babu ƙauna tsakanin shi da wanda yake mulkinshi, saboda haka kullum za a tsaya ne ana nan, wannan na cewa kaza, wannan na cewa kaza. To, amma babban magana shi ne: shi wanda ake mulka sukan zagaye shugabanninsu ne. Idan shugabanni suka kasance cewa suna musu mulki da rashin gaskiya, da rashin adalci, kullum sai dai a ce … an samu kaza, tattalin arziki ya ƙaru kaza, amma rayuwan talaka na daɗa lalacewa. Rayuwa talaka na daɗa komawa baya. Talaka ba ya samun ƙaruwa ta wajen harkokin yau da kullum. Alla misali: Zai ga cewa asibiti bai gyaru ba. Zai ga cewa makarantun da ƴaƴanshi suke zuwa sai daɗa lalacewa suke yi. Zai ga cewa hanyoyin nan da suke bi, babu kuɗin mota, ya zama mishi abun wahala. Ya zama da cewa ya ga ba wuta, ba ruwan famfo, ba wani abu tilo a ƙasa. Kuma kullum sai dai a ce ai tattalin arziki ya ƙaru da sauransu, kuma sai ka ga shugabanni waɗanda yake ya zaɓa. Ba su da kome a lokacin da aka zaɓe su, sai ya gansu, sun zama su ne masu arziki, su ne masu arzikin duniya da wanda suke kusa da su, su ne suke cin kajinsu ba babbaka suna kolewa, suna jin daɗinsu suna shagali. To, waɗannan abubuwan su ne suke sa talaka ya zamanto cewa zuciyanshi ya bushe. Ya katse ya zamanto cewa tsakanin shi da shugabanshi, sai zagi ... to, ni ban ka, {you know [English]} kin san wani lokaci za ki ji mutane suna cewa ai tsakanin mu da shugabanninmu sai addu’a mu ringa yi musu addu’a. In ba mu yi musu addu’a ba … ah … duk abun, abin da ya same su zai shafe mu ai. Eee, wannan magana gaskiya ne! To, amma shugabanni kafin talakawa su yi musu addu’a, dole ne sai su sun ma talakawa adalci. Domin kuwa, duk wanda Allah ya ba shi shugabanci, Allah ya ba shi al'umma ne a hannunshi. Abin da ake bukata a wurin shi ne ya kasance cewa yana da adalci, yana da saukin kai, yana da fahimtar al’umma, kuma yana da niyyan alheri a zuciyarshi. To, idan aka samu haka, maganan talaka na zagin shugabanni ba zai taso ba. Su kansu, shugabanni da talaka, za su ji daɗin mulkinsu. Amma muddin shugabanci yad- … tabata ya dawama cikin … cuta da yaudara. Kaman irin yadda muke ta fama da shi yanzu a ƙasarmu, to dole ne ko talakawa, saboda a zaba da suka samu kansu a ciki kuwa, su ci gaba da zagin shugabanninsu, ba za su yi musu addu’a alheri ba. |
Dr. Kabir Mato on Call-In A: The speaker {((-))} from Bauchi State, Yahaya Idriss Sulaiman. Here he is, and my view is that since we say, we were going to continue this program by talking about the economy and politics. I’m not going to say anything about the economy because there’s no point in a person expressing any of his perspective on it, and because the country cannot do anything for itself. Rather, I’d like to talk about politics in Nigeria. B: OK … A: Speaking of politics in Nigeria: first of all, there are no schools, there are no universities, there are no legislative bodies in all of Nigeria, mmm … where one only goes on the weekend or in the middle of the week to ... B: Um, sir, are you going to ask a question or engage in commentary? A: Well, OK … OK, true, it’s a commentary off on … B: Alright, sir, let’s have the second person. C: Salamu alaikum [peace be upon you]! B: Wa alaikum salam … Sir [peace upon you as well]! C: I’m Muhammadu, the leader of Babangida’s supporters here in Bauchi. My question is this: this Bauchi oil of ours … from when it was first dug out until now, we don’t know where things stand. Secondly, Ajaokuta: even now we don’t know where it stands. Third, the question I have is this: the legislator {((----))} but one sees that Obasanjo is working, and Governor Mu’azu is working, may God reward them. And the fourth question: what causes common folk of Nigeria to curse their leaders so much, while the educated elites don’t stand up and stop them? That’s the question that I have {((--))}. B: Alright, Doctor … D: OK, this is correct, Hajiya, his questions are: he asks about … the petrol that it’s said has started being drilled in Bauchi, so I think this should be investigated … since he’s in Bauchi, their government in Bauchi could give a more verifiable answer … ah … in their area, since I don’t think they’ve started drilling oil in Bauchi, I’ve never heard that they’ve started. I know a while ago it was said that the government had … ah …. started looking into it. Or the oil that they have there would be enough, until funds were allocated to … ah … try and extract it. Ah … then the main thing he was saying, about Ajaokuta: he doesn’t know the status of Ajaokuta. Of course, as everyone knows, Ajaokuta was among the first companies that the federal government split up and sold in this country. Ah … on this account, Ajaokuta has been here until now, as he knows; it was in the hands of the government, or else in the hands of the business folks here, it was going along, then it stopped and no one knows what the situation is at the moment. Then there’s the talk about President Obasanjo working and Governor Amadu Mu’azu working. This is, as you know, what he didn’t … say, and then it came to how he repeated it. By clinging to his cry when he said, why do the common people curse their leaders? And why don’t the educated ones give them a talking to? As I understand it, the reason why the common man curses his leader is when the common man is certain that his leader is not being fair to him. It’s the fault of the type of government in which the leader must be a just man. When a leader becomes unjust against the ruled. What will eventually result is that he … who is governed will develop a bad temper. He rises up knowing that there’s no affection between him and the leader. And that’s why there’s no pity between a leader and the one he governs. So as far as the person who is governed is concerned … it will be that there’s no pity between him and the one who governs, because this one will always stop right there, one saying this, one saying that. But the key message is this: those who are governed tend to curse their leaders … when leaders come to govern them without truthfulness, without justice, then it always seems … something might happen, the economy might improve, but the lives of the common people keep on languishing. The lives of the common people continue to go downhill. The common man doesn’t see an improvement in his daily affairs. By way of example: He’ll see that the hospital has not been repaired. He’ll see that the schools his children go to are increasingly in disrepair. He’ll see that on the roadways, the lack of money for transport becomes problematic for him. He sees there’s no electricity, no public water, not a single thing in the country. And then it always seems that the economy improves for everyone else, and then you see the leaders whom he elects. They had nothing when they’re elected, but then he sees them becoming wealthy, they are the wealthy people with those around them, eating their uncharred chicken, feeling good about themselves, and celebrating. Well, these are the things that make the common man become so bad-tempered. He snaps, and nothing comes between him and his leader but cursing … and so I give it to you, you know, you know sometimes you’ll hear people saying, well, there’s only goodwill between us and our leaders, we just have goodwill toward them. If we don’t have goodwill toward them … ah … anything that happens to them will affect us as well. Yes, that’s the truth, for sure! But as for the leaders, before the common people will show goodwill toward them, they must show fairness toward the common people. Because to all whom God gives leadership, God places the community in his hands. What’s required here is this: that he be fair, amenable, understanding of the community, and have kind intentions in his heart. And if this happens, then the issue of common peoples cursing their leaders will not arise. Together, the leaders and the common people will enjoy their government. But when leadership as-- … is certain to falter in … times of cheating and trickery, such as the kind we are struggling with now in our country, then it’s crucial for the common people, because they’re chosen to fend for themselves here, to carry on cursing their leaders, showing them neither goodwill nor kindness. |
Glossary
| Hausa | Hausa Meaning | English Meaning |
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| Tofa albarkacin bakinsa ba a kai | wanna salon magana ne da yake nufi: bada ra'ayi bisa halin abin da ake magana a kai. | This is a saying that means to give one's point of view on the topic being discussed. |
| Ajakuta | Wani babban kamfani na aikin ƙarfe cikin Nijeriya. | A steel company in Nigeria. |
| Ta kariya ta sayar | Wannan maganar tana nufin gwanatin tarayya ta sayar da ƙudura da ta zama ta jam'a duka kamar kamfanin Ajakuta. | Privatization of public assets by the Federal Government, as occurred with the Ajatuka company. |
| Sa gaba. | Bin wata hanya wadda ake iya gani ko sani. Cikin wannan bayyani mai maganar yana nufin an rasa sanin ko ina matsayin kamfanin Ajakuta yake. | To take a direction. In this context, the speaker means nobody knows where the Ajakuta company stands. |
| Zuciyanshi ya bushe. | Zuciyarshi ta yi tauri; ba ya jin daɗi, ko gamsuwa game da mutane waɗɗanda ya zaɓa, sai dai rashin jituwa da rashin yarda. | The meaning of this saying is "to become resilient." The speaker expresses what a person feels after being deceived by the people they elected. |
| Magana...ba zai taso ba. | Wannan yana nufin babu dalili a kawo wata magana cikin hirar da ake yi saboda ba a yarda da maganar ba ko kuma bata da danganci da hirar. | This saying means that something should not be said, or an issue should not be brought up simply because it should be kept secret, or is not related to the topic being discussed. |
| Allah ya saka da alheri. | Wannan magana ce da ake da ita dayawa don nuna godiya ga mutum wadda ya yi wani abin da an ji daɗinshi. In ba a ƙare maganar da kalma `alheri` ba ana nufin fatan sakawar Allah ga mutumen da ya yi wa wani laifi. | Hausa expression commonly used to thank a person for a good deed. When the word "alheri" does not follow, the meaning is to indirectly wish for a divine punishment on somebody for hurting another person. |
| Suke cin kajinsu ba babbaka. | Suna rayuwa mai wadata ko mai almubazzari ,irin wadda basu wahalar kome cikin duk abinda suke so. | This is a saying in Hausa which is addressed to wealthy people who live an extravagant life, who don't have any problem getting what they want. |
Notes
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Nijeriya tana ɗaya daga cikin manyan ƙasahen duniya masu fitar da man fetur, kuma ita ce jagaba a Afirka ta wannan fannin amma tana da matsalolin da suka haɗa da tarzoma musanman wajajen Nijer delta inda man yake. Rashawa, muguyar sarrafawa, da rashin aikin na cikin matsalolin da hukuma taka kokowa da su. |
Nigeria is one of the world's largest countries and Africa's leading oil producer but, along with its wealth, the country faces frequent unrest in the Niger delta region, home of much of the oil. Corruption, mismanagement, and unemployment are also pressing problems that the authorities stuggle with. |
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<eng-response>Topics related to the economy and politics are discussed in this live radio talk show hosted by Dr. Kabir Mato. There are reflections on the management of resources by Nigerian authorities, and its social and economical impact. Discussed are schools, the extravagant new lifestyle of various leaders, and topics ranging from the privatization of companies like “Ajakuta” to the lack of good infrastructure—roads, for example. The common person gets confused, angry, and disgusted to the point that even religious leaders are not able to restore respect between them and their leaders, Mato comments. Leaders have to be just, honest, and respectful in order to create a good relationship with the people they govern, who in return will respect and bless them, he concludes.</eng-response>
<response>Wannan gabatawar shirin rediyo akan tattalin arziki da siyasa, wadda Dr Kabir Mato yake bidawa, tana bada haske bisa yadda hukumar Nijeriya take tafiyar da arzikin ƙasa, da kuma yadda aikin na su ya shafi zaman jama'a da tattalin arziki. Ya bayyana cewa daga sayar da ƙadara kamar kamfanin 'Ajakuta', zuwa ga rashin likita, ko ruwa da kuma sakewar rayuwa ta almubazzaranci ta shugabanni, talaka ya kan rikkice kuma ya kai ga hasala da zage-zagen da ko malamai ba su iya sasanci tsakaninsu . Ya kamata shugabanni su yi adalci, da mutunci domin a girka zaman jin daɗin tsakaninsu da jama'ar da suke iko haka su kuma zasu girmama su, su albarkace su da addu'a ya ce a ƙarshe.</response>
<fdbk>Daidai ne. Zaɓen wannan taƙaitarwar ya fi zama daidai saboda tana bada bayyani bisa ra'ayin mutane akan yadda ake tafiyar da tattalin arzikin ƙasa da siyasa. Tana kuma nuna halin rashin jin daɗin masu maganar bisa matsalolin da suke faɗi cikin anfani da kalmomi masa ƙarhi.</fdbk>
<eng-fdbk>Correct. This is the best choice because it covers the topics of the discussion about the people's opinions on the economical and political situation in the country. Its use of strong words also reflects the unhappiness of the speakers.</eng-fdbk>
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<eng-response>The host in this talk show addresses several topics while answering the public’s questions: the social disparity often caused by politics; the dishonesty of leaders causing the revolt of the common person; and the degradation of living conditions. Dr. Kabir Mato relates the people’s anger and their criticism of the authorities to disrespectful and unjust leaders. Leaders claim to be bringing progress while the people who elected them still struggle with health, education, transportation, water, and electricity. These people now watch them and their relatives live luxurious lifestyles. Such leaders do not deserve the people’s prayers, he adds. He suggests that leaders should be honest, just, and considerate to create an ideal relationship with their people.</eng-response>
<response>Mai bida wannan hira, yana jawabi bisa banbanci na rayuwar jama'a da siyasa ta kan kawo, rashin gaskiyar shugabanni da take kawo talaka ga sake hali, da kuma ƙanƙantarwar halin zaman lafiyar mutane. Dr. Kabir Mato yana dangata rashin jin daɗin mutane da rashin adalci da kulawa na shugabanni. Suna zancen ƙaruwar tattalin arziki lokacin da assibiti, makarantu, hanyoyi, ruwa da wuta suka gagara ga jama'a da ta zaɓe su kuma take kallon rayuwarsu da na kusan su ta wadata. Ya ce saboda waɗɗanan abubuwa, shugabanni ba su cancanci jama'a su yi masu addu'a ba, kuma ya kawo shawara gare su da su ɗauki talaka da darajja, su yi gaskiya da adilci don su yi zaman kirki da jama'arsu.</response>
<eng-fdbk>Incorrect. This summary gives a general explanation of the correct economic and political topics without providing their geographic context. Please listen again to the questions. What information do they provide that can help one understand what country is concerned?</eng-fdbk>
<fdbk>Ba daidai ba. Wannan taƙaitawar tana bada galibin
fasarar kan magana bisa tattalin arziki da siyasa amma bata bada labarin ƙasar da ake magana kan ta ba. Ku ƙara saurara tambayoyin.
Wane bayyani suke badawa da yake iya nuna ko wace ƙasa hirar ta shafa?</fdbk>
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<eng-response>Dr. Kabir Moto, in his answers to concerned Nigerians on a talk show, depicts the unfairness and lack of clarity of the authorities, and the reaction of the dissatisfied and deceived population. The loss of confidence in the leaders they elected has brought about a mood of revolt from the people, who still struggling with poor living conditions. Public assets are mismanaged and leaders and their relatives live comfortably while the rest of the country struggles for basics, Mato comments. As a solution to the deteriorating relationship between the leaders and their people, he reiterates the need for leaders to be more religious in order to satisfy the people’s needs and earn their respect.</eng-response>
<response>Cikin amsoshin da ya ba 'yan Nijeriya da ke damuwa da tahiyar al'amuran ƙasa ga wannan shiri, Dr. Kabir Mato ya nuna rashin gaskiya da cika bayyani na shugabanni, kuma da yadda jama'a ta ɗauke su bisa ga waɗɗanan halayen. Rashin yarda da shugabannin da jama'a da kanta ta zaɓa, ya kawo halin tayarsuwa daga talakawa. Mato ya bayana cewa sun banzatar da dukiyar ƙasa don wadataciyar rayuwa tare da iyalansu, lokacin da sauran jama'a na wahala don su samu kaɗan. Ya ƙara cewa, ya kamata shugabannin su daɗa sa addini cikin rayuwarsu da ayyukansu domin su gamshi jama'a kuma su biya bukatunta.</response>
<eng-fdbk>Incorrect. Think about the speaker's feelings about the current authorities and their morality. Kabir's interpretation of the ideal relationship between leaders and the people has been modified in this summary. What is his real definition?</eng-fdbk>
<fdbk>Ba daidai ba. Ku ƙara tunani ga yadda mai maganar yake ganin shugabannin da ɗa'arsu. Cikin wannan taƙataiwar ba a faɗi daidai abin da Kabir ya ce ba bisa ɗa'ar hukuma game da yadda ya kamata su ɗauki mutane don ba juna daraja. Minene ra'ayinshi na gaske?</fdbk>
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Choose the best summary.</instr>
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<finishtl>Minene ya fi damuwar mutane bisa ga fannin tattalin arziki a Nijeriya?</finishtl>
<finish>What is Nigerian people's main concern regarding the country's economy?</finish>
<finish>How would Nigerian religious leaders be able to stop the people's harsh criticism of authorities, as one of the speakers mentions?</finish>
<finishtl>Yaya malaman addini zasu iya tsaida mutane daga matsanancin cin gyaran iko a cikin halin Nigeria kamar yadda ɗaya daga cikin masu maganar ya ambata?</finishtl>
<finishtl>Yaya kuke ganin 'yan Nijeriya suna duba shugabanninsu, da yadda suke tafiyar da harakokin ƙasa baya kun saurari waɗɗannan ra'ayoyin?</finishtl>
<finish>After listening to the comments, how closely do you think Nigerians watch their leaders and the way they handle public matters?</finish>
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